FrankIn a lot of the stories, you know, that our elders tell us about the flood?

RikkiYeah.

FrankThe flood that happens in the Bible?

RikkiYeah.

FrankAnd Steven Point, Jeff's brother, he said, "You know, we're going to have to find out exactly when that flood happened, and we're going to rename all the years, and we're going to say, maybe, maybe 4000 A.F., after the flood."

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FrankBecause they got 300 BC, that's 300 before Christ was born, and, I don't know, maybe 500 AD, that's after Christ died, after death. And he said, "Well, we're going to start a new year," he said there, "after the flood."

RikkiYeah.

FrankBecause it wasn't long ago in the newspapers, you know, when the Sumas tribe was trying to save some land up there in Sumas mountain. Because people are going faster, the people are building too far up Sumas mountain, and there's caves up there they call "the spirit caves", and the stories that their elders tell are that Sumas people went up there and stayed in those caves when the flood happened.

RikkiYeah.

FrankAnd you know, they tied their canoes up in there. And the people that are writing newsletters and articles in the newspaper thought it was a 1948 flood, or some flood that-

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Frank-some flood that happened in the Fraser River, and they said, "No, you're better to do more research." It's the biblical flood they're talking about, you know.

RikkiWell, they say they were here for 9,000 years.

FrankAnd Jeff's great-grandfather, Dan Milo, he was still about, and I used to work with him at Coqualeetza Hospital. He said, "You know that place down in the States they call Chehalis, and the other place they call Scowlitz?" He said, "Those people come from up here," he says, "from the Harrison River."

RikkiYeah.

FrankHe said that, during the flood, they tied the canoes, the big barges, up in the mountain, but they broke loose, and when they landed in the States, when the water went down, they just rebuilt where their canoe landed. And that's where Chehalis comes from. Chehalis, Washington and Chehalis in B.C., Scowlitz, but they call it Cowlitz down there.

And I was down there in Squoquomish, and I was telling this story in a flea market, and this woman comes over and she says, "You know, you're telling a story, I believe it, because I went to Harrison Hot Springs and I've seen some elders there, and they were talking their Indian language. The same as mine," she says, "I understood them."

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